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		<title>By: David Miller &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why We Vote &#8220;No&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Miller &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why We Vote &#8220;No&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] weeks ago I suggested that our tendency as voters is to vote against the subject of any given election. This morning my brain supplied me with a possible explanation as to why that might be. Scott [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] weeks ago I suggested that our tendency as voters is to vote against the subject of any given election. This morning my brain supplied me with a possible explanation as to why that might be. Scott [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.davidjmiller.org/2008/who-are-you-voting-against/comment-page-1/#comment-11330</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice slogan.</description>
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		<title>By: Anti-PC Infidel</title>
		<link>http://www.davidjmiller.org/2008/who-are-you-voting-against/comment-page-1/#comment-11325</link>
		<dc:creator>Anti-PC Infidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, then you can write in my name.

My campaign slogan:

&quot;Vote for me. I&#039;ll leave you alone!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, then you can write in my name.</p>
<p>My campaign slogan:</p>
<p>&#8220;Vote for me. I&#8217;ll leave you alone!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.davidjmiller.org/2008/who-are-you-voting-against/comment-page-1/#comment-11307</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from having experience with either Obama or McCain as my senator, I can relate to most of what you have said. Unfortunately I am not 35 this election cycle so I can&#039;t write my own name in if I have nobody to vote FOR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from having experience with either Obama or McCain as my senator, I can relate to most of what you have said. Unfortunately I am not 35 this election cycle so I can&#8217;t write my own name in if I have nobody to vote FOR.</p>
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		<title>By: The Anti-PC Infidel</title>
		<link>http://www.davidjmiller.org/2008/who-are-you-voting-against/comment-page-1/#comment-11305</link>
		<dc:creator>The Anti-PC Infidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that elections--in particular national elections--are rarely determined by the views of the people regarding who would be a good/effective/better leader. Few people spend the time needed to 1) understand the principles of good government, 2) determine which candidate has the experience and character traits most likely to implement those principles, and 3) find qualified individuals to run for office when they realize that nobody running now should be within 1,000 miles of public office.

My problem with voting this year (and most years) is that the Doctrine &amp; Covenants indicates that God has commanded us to select good, honest, and wise men to be our leaders. That pretty much disqualifies both McCain and Obama. Obama, being the empty-suit totalitarian collectivist that he is, would clearly be the most detrimental, but McCain is not that much closer to a true defender of the Founding Principles. (As a resident of southern Arizona, I have suffered under that putz for long enough. I wonder if Johnny Mac would like to take a tour with me to see what our porous southern border has done for Tucson.)

If I vote FOR somebody instead of AGAINST someone, I&#039;ll end up writing in my own name...again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that elections&#8211;in particular national elections&#8211;are rarely determined by the views of the people regarding who would be a good/effective/better leader. Few people spend the time needed to 1) understand the principles of good government, 2) determine which candidate has the experience and character traits most likely to implement those principles, and 3) find qualified individuals to run for office when they realize that nobody running now should be within 1,000 miles of public office.</p>
<p>My problem with voting this year (and most years) is that the Doctrine &amp; Covenants indicates that God has commanded us to select good, honest, and wise men to be our leaders. That pretty much disqualifies both McCain and Obama. Obama, being the empty-suit totalitarian collectivist that he is, would clearly be the most detrimental, but McCain is not that much closer to a true defender of the Founding Principles. (As a resident of southern Arizona, I have suffered under that putz for long enough. I wonder if Johnny Mac would like to take a tour with me to see what our porous southern border has done for Tucson.)</p>
<p>If I vote FOR somebody instead of AGAINST someone, I&#8217;ll end up writing in my own name&#8230;again.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.davidjmiller.org/2008/who-are-you-voting-against/comment-page-1/#comment-11302</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that the way the parties avoid any significant debate on pressing issues suggests that they want the votes to be reduced to a referendum on one candidate or another. I wonder if voter intensity is something we should be measuring - perhaps we are better off with a straight up or down vote from each voter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the way the parties avoid any significant debate on pressing issues suggests that they want the votes to be reduced to a referendum on one candidate or another. I wonder if voter intensity is something we should be measuring &#8211; perhaps we are better off with a straight up or down vote from each voter.</p>
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		<title>By: Reach Upward</title>
		<link>http://www.davidjmiller.org/2008/who-are-you-voting-against/comment-page-1/#comment-11297</link>
		<dc:creator>Reach Upward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 02:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The campaigns have a lot to do with determining whether their candidate ends up being the subject of a referendum.  Obama&#039;s campaign didn&#039;t have to do some of the things they have done that have made their guy questionable.

The 2004 election began as a referendum on Bush, but as you note, ended up as a referendum on Kerry.  The Kerry campaign did some dumb things to make that happen.

I don&#039;t know if there was any way to avoid the 1980 election being a referendum on Carter.  He had such a spectacular series of problems that it simply couldn&#039;t be avoided by the end of his first term.

What general elections measure poorly is intensity.  Each voter gets a single vote.  But each voter has a level of intensity as well.

Maybe they hate candidate A at a level 7 out of 10, but only dislike candidate B at a level of 2.  Or maybe they like candidate A at a level of 10.  But their vote is of equal value to the guy that only likes candidate A at level 1.  Some of the intensity is perhaps measured by apathy (people that choose not to vote), but that hardly tells the whole story.

Automatic runoff voting is interesting, but studies show that most people won&#039;t buy it because of the complexity involved.  The outcome is not always clear to understand.  I&#039;m not sure there is a good mechanism for having intensity reflected in voting outcomes, nor am I certain that Americans would even think that individuals&#039; passion should help determine elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The campaigns have a lot to do with determining whether their candidate ends up being the subject of a referendum.  Obama&#8217;s campaign didn&#8217;t have to do some of the things they have done that have made their guy questionable.</p>
<p>The 2004 election began as a referendum on Bush, but as you note, ended up as a referendum on Kerry.  The Kerry campaign did some dumb things to make that happen.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if there was any way to avoid the 1980 election being a referendum on Carter.  He had such a spectacular series of problems that it simply couldn&#8217;t be avoided by the end of his first term.</p>
<p>What general elections measure poorly is intensity.  Each voter gets a single vote.  But each voter has a level of intensity as well.</p>
<p>Maybe they hate candidate A at a level 7 out of 10, but only dislike candidate B at a level of 2.  Or maybe they like candidate A at a level of 10.  But their vote is of equal value to the guy that only likes candidate A at level 1.  Some of the intensity is perhaps measured by apathy (people that choose not to vote), but that hardly tells the whole story.</p>
<p>Automatic runoff voting is interesting, but studies show that most people won&#8217;t buy it because of the complexity involved.  The outcome is not always clear to understand.  I&#8217;m not sure there is a good mechanism for having intensity reflected in voting outcomes, nor am I certain that Americans would even think that individuals&#8217; passion should help determine elections.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.davidjmiller.org/2008/who-are-you-voting-against/comment-page-1/#comment-11295</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any way to change it if I&#039;m right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way to change it if I&#8217;m right?</p>
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		<title>By: Reach Upward</title>
		<link>http://www.davidjmiller.org/2008/who-are-you-voting-against/comment-page-1/#comment-11293</link>
		<dc:creator>Reach Upward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your idea has merit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your idea has merit.</p>
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