Comments on: Despicable http://www.davidjmiller.org/2007/despicable/ Notes of an apologist without apology Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:57:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: David Miller » Blog Archive » Get Vouchers Right Next Time http://www.davidjmiller.org/2007/despicable/comment-page-1/#comment-3725 David Miller » Blog Archive » Get Vouchers Right Next Time Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:31:24 +0000 http://www.davidjmiller.org/despicable/#comment-3725 [...] - Apparent Inconsistencies - Vouchers vs Credits For School Choice - Voucher Related Tidbits - Despicable - Put Ethics Before Politics - Arguments Against Vouchers - Who Do You Believe? - Facts in Debate - [...] [...] – Apparent Inconsistencies – Vouchers vs Credits For School Choice – Voucher Related Tidbits – Despicable – Put Ethics Before Politics – Arguments Against Vouchers – Who Do You Believe? – Facts in Debate – [...]

]]> By: David Miller » Blog Archive » Turning a Corner http://www.davidjmiller.org/2007/despicable/comment-page-1/#comment-3280 David Miller » Blog Archive » Turning a Corner Sun, 21 Oct 2007 03:22:04 +0000 http://www.davidjmiller.org/despicable/#comment-3280 [...] I have been less than pleased with some of the tactics of those behind vouchers. My support was wavering because of my displeasure [...] [...] I have been less than pleased with some of the tactics of those behind vouchers. My support was wavering because of my displeasure [...]

]]> By: Frank Staheli http://www.davidjmiller.org/2007/despicable/comment-page-1/#comment-2684 Frank Staheli Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:13:23 +0000 http://www.davidjmiller.org/despicable/#comment-2684 If Mark Towner is able to come out of this not guilty, then I will apologize. But as for now, I suggest that no one from either side have anything to do with him. I suspect he's in it for the intrigue and entertainment. Perhaps Towner WANTS vouchers to fail. His tactics are surely damaging to the pro-voucher effort. Having seen what he's admitted to in the past, it aggravates me to no end when I see his stories (pretty much spam themselves) on Utah Bloghive. I suggest his feed be removed from Utah Bloghive until he can apologize for his silly tactics and until he can contribute something worthwhile to the blogging community. If Mark Towner is able to come out of this not guilty, then I will apologize. But as for now, I suggest that no one from either side have anything to do with him. I suspect he’s in it for the intrigue and entertainment.

Perhaps Towner WANTS vouchers to fail. His tactics are surely damaging to the pro-voucher effort.

Having seen what he’s admitted to in the past, it aggravates me to no end when I see his stories (pretty much spam themselves) on Utah Bloghive. I suggest his feed be removed from Utah Bloghive until he can apologize for his silly tactics and until he can contribute something worthwhile to the blogging community.

]]> By: David http://www.davidjmiller.org/2007/despicable/comment-page-1/#comment-2655 David Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:45:16 +0000 http://www.davidjmiller.org/despicable/#comment-2655 I didn't notice that the address had been confirmed as Mark's. You're right that nobody (not even PCE) would hire someone without any idea of what that person was supposed to be doing. I didn’t notice that the address had been confirmed as Mark’s. You’re right that nobody (not even PCE) would hire someone without any idea of what that person was supposed to be doing.

]]> By: Jesse Harris http://www.davidjmiller.org/2007/despicable/comment-page-1/#comment-2649 Jesse Harris Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:39:13 +0000 http://www.davidjmiller.org/despicable/#comment-2649 About the only unsure thing right now is if PCE gave Mark carte blanche to do whatever he thought would help or if they provided input as to what exactly he did. At any rate, someone had to know what they were getting into by hiring him. About the only unsure thing right now is if PCE gave Mark carte blanche to do whatever he thought would help or if they provided input as to what exactly he did. At any rate, someone had to know what they were getting into by hiring him.

]]> By: It All Comes Together: Mark Towner Was Hired by PCE, Probably to Send Spam » CoolestFamilyEver http://www.davidjmiller.org/2007/despicable/comment-page-1/#comment-2638 It All Comes Together: Mark Towner Was Hired by PCE, Probably to Send Spam » CoolestFamilyEver Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:32:01 +0000 http://www.davidjmiller.org/despicable/#comment-2638 [...] thief (again) instead of owning up to what he did. Now he's been spanked publicly by the whole bloghive and likely faces a thrashing in the papers once they pick up on the same facts we did. There's [...] [...] thief (again) instead of owning up to what he did. Now he's been spanked publicly by the whole bloghive and likely faces a thrashing in the papers once they pick up on the same facts we did. There's [...]

]]> By: David http://www.davidjmiller.org/2007/despicable/comment-page-1/#comment-2633 David Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:46:17 +0000 http://www.davidjmiller.org/despicable/#comment-2633 Thanks for the follow-up. That post by Mata Hari (that's almost as lame as Jason Bourne) is pretty conclusive, but leaves just enough unproven to allow Mark and PCE to protest their innocence. Thanks for the follow-up. That post by Mata Hari (that’s almost as lame as Jason Bourne) is pretty conclusive, but leaves just enough unproven to allow Mark and PCE to protest their innocence.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.davidjmiller.org/2007/despicable/comment-page-1/#comment-2632 Jeremy Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:24:06 +0000 http://www.davidjmiller.org/despicable/#comment-2632 Ugh...it looks like Anon was wrong. According to this blog post: http://againstutahvouchers.blogspot.com/2007/10/more-on-voucher-spam.html PCE actually paid Mr. Towner to do this type of thing for them. Ugh…it looks like Anon was wrong. According to this blog post:

http://againstutahvouchers.blogspot.com/2007/10/more-on-voucher-spam.html

PCE actually paid Mr. Towner to do this type of thing for them.

]]> By: David http://www.davidjmiller.org/2007/despicable/comment-page-1/#comment-2618 David Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:09:26 +0000 http://www.davidjmiller.org/despicable/#comment-2618 I must be really slow - I didn't realize that Towner had adopted another identity for his vouchernews blog. I've stumbled upon it before (even as a supporter I was not overly impressed) and I just assumed it was his. I guess it would make sense to try a little self-promotion with such an email campaign. Maybe I'll pop over there and leave a “Hey, you’re not helping!!” comment. I must be really slow – I didn’t realize that Towner had adopted another identity for his vouchernews blog. I’ve stumbled upon it before (even as a supporter I was not overly impressed) and I just assumed it was his. I guess it would make sense to try a little self-promotion with such an email campaign.

Maybe I’ll pop over there and leave a “Hey, you’re not helping!!” comment.

]]> By: Anon http://www.davidjmiller.org/2007/despicable/comment-page-1/#comment-2606 Anon Fri, 05 Oct 2007 03:27:34 +0000 http://www.davidjmiller.org/despicable/#comment-2606 As much as I'd like to blame this on PCE or Sutherland or some other suitably evil pro-voucher group it seems pretty clear that the Utah Blogosphere's most infamous pretend pirate and spammer is behind this one. Since no campaign in their right mind hire him I'm betting he's acting alone. The "vouchernews.blogspot" site linked in the email is where Towner has been posting articles about vouchers and the UEA for the past couple months under the pseudonym of "Jason Bourne". As much as I’d like to blame this on PCE or Sutherland or some other suitably evil pro-voucher group it seems pretty clear that the Utah Blogosphere’s most infamous pretend pirate and spammer is behind this one. Since no campaign in their right mind hire him I’m betting he’s acting alone.

The “vouchernews.blogspot” site linked in the email is where Towner has been posting articles about vouchers and the UEA for the past couple months under the pseudonym of “Jason Bourne”.

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